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27 comments:
Looks likt the very small sign
on Touhy that says " Condo located downtown for sale " maybe be the key.
For sale by owner!!!!!!!
Off topic:
This new runway is driving me crazy...and it is open only one day. Didn't realize how "quiet" it was until now, I'm very sad. Have a nice weekend everyone!!
Might as well learn to get use to it.
Yes - last evening they were flying
the final approach right over my house too....from east to west.
Wow....maybe I can use my roof now
for a fee to advertise.
Any bidders....."Elect Dave "
for mayor!!
The new runway now has planes flying directly over me and the lights from the planes shine in my living room window!
Info about it on the city's website, which by the way, has yet ANOTHER typo. they cannot even spell Maine South correctly? seriously?!!!!
The new runway is a nightmare formany of us in Park Ridge. The new landing pattern is directly over our home. When we moved here 18 years ago this was not an issue. Literally overnight the use and enjoyment of our home has been altered for the worse.
Please call the O'Hare noise hotline number at (800)435-9569. Call today and call everyday. Tell them of your concerns. I spoke to a woman there today and she said that Park Ridge must be getting "slammed" by the new runway given the calls she is getting. She recommended to call everyday. Demand they test the noise in our area-right down the Belle Plaine corridor.
Clearly Mayor Daley does not care and has never cared about the suburbs so the runway is not going to go away. But we should all get our houses-and the scools- properly insulated at Mayor Daley's expense and it should but done sooner rather than later.
I don't wanna sound to unsympathetic but
you knew this was comming and if you originally from elsewhere and move to PR long after the airport was established so what do you expect?
MIKE at 5:04 PM - The new runway was designed provide delay reduction during bad weather, increasing bad weather runways from 2 to 3. But we’ve had nice weather for the last 3 days and planes have been ripping over my house every 2 minutes. I didn’t expect this!
Just want to add my concerns to those already listed. I live right on Belle Plaine and change over the last few days is dramatic!!
Thanks for listing the 800 number. I called and left my opinion and will continue to call.
I know I've commented on ths twice already and didn't know about them only using this new route for bad weather. The airport problem I rarely pay all that much attention to it. so my apologies for that.
Though I wanna ask you all an honest question especially when 1 said it wasn't an issue till this new runway opened.
On could it not have been?
There actually is a southwest corridor witch does goes over the immediate area, which includes the center of town and does get used probably when the other SW corridor over the far north side get's used though probably not as often and I guess they only use the 1 over the center of town when there's so much air traffic and the other runway can't handle it.
But another thing I've noticed over the years is when they take off they often go all over after take off as opposed where comming in for a landing, they usually line up towards the runway they're appoaching long before they land. Though I don't live in between Devon & Touhy Aves, I've had enough familiarity with the area especially having grandparents who used to live in 1 of the apartment buldings on Touhy.
I'm south of Devon in between the new corridor and old one that goes over the expressway so I maybe less affected other then when they take off and I don't wanna sound to unsympathetic and maybe this additional route might add more to it but yet at the same time I think we all need to remember most of us came along long after the airport was established and need except some of this because it's not gonna get any better. Same goes for those who might of lived here long before O'Hare existed or beofore it became as busy as it is today.
I also find it hard to believe they would just only use this new corridor just for bad wether because I figure this was built to handle the increased air traffic and also take in flights to ease the other runway over the expressway and the other 1 that's in between Foster and Lawrence Aves.
My advice is you just contact the noise commitee and inquire about this but you and everyone else might just have to learn to accept this as long as we reside here in PR.
Let's be frank here on the new runway....its Daley's way of telling us ..hey I can do what I want where I want and when I want.
Anyone want a less in civics....take a ride along Irving Pk Rd while going into B/ville. Its a ghost town.
And he wants to build an Olympic village on the westside of Chicago.
Does all this make sense ?
Do you know of anyone that would drive to the westside to see the games and leave your car...
Mins after Obama was confirmed to be the president Elect - 104 complaints of gunfire came into CPD - PSAP E-911 center.
You do the math.
You're just being silly.
omigosh, it's EEYORE!!!
the voice of gloom and doom.
Speaking from experience, you can call that 800 number until your fingers are raw, it won't make a damn bit of difference. When we lived by Southwest Park I called multiple times a day, for weeks on end, even stood out in the yard holding the phone for the operator to hear the intense noise from the planes, and they continued to fly airplanes over our house.
Have to let the airplane noise people know that single noise events are not the issue for the noise commission, even if those noise events are coming at you 2 or 3 minutes apart for a few hours. They measure noise in terms of a day and night average over the course of a year. Your residence will only qualify for sound insulation if you have a day and night average noise level of 65 decibels and up.
Hey Mike -
Its time to wake up sir.
Obama supporter no doubt!
I dont know how much I believe that this is only for "bad weather" purposes. This runway is just the newest of what is supposed to be 6 total parallel E-W runways. Was the "bad weather" scenario maybe after the total expansion is complete?
I know the northeast 22R traffic has decreased significantly now that they are using the new runway. So PR residents further to the north have seen it quiet down a bit...
From the City's web site:
"The 2007 edition of the "Sound Insulating Your Home" handbook, is now available through the O'Hare Nose Compatibility Commission Website."
Ummmm. . . "nose" compatibility? Who's smoking what???
Did you all not know that there was an airport just west of Park Ridge? Did you not know they were builing a new runway?
Just because the new runway is designed to be used in bad weather does not mean it is ONLY going to be used in bad weather.
Its not a $400 million emergency exit, with at $25 million control tower, manned by $$ air traffic controllers, who only show up for work when its rainy or foggy or snowing.
While residents along Bellplaine are complaining, others up here in the NW corner of Park Ridge are rejoicing. When the new runway is being used, the old runway over Maine East and the Allstate Arena is not. The airport has moved that traffic by 50 degrees on the compass.
But landings are better than take-offs. So as long as the planes take off to the west, we will be spared the roar of a fully load plane trying to gain altitude instead of a "quieter" plane "coasting" in for landing.
As someone said earlier - get used to it.
Reggie: I think the Allstate is still gonna see the traffic. The planes just come from the east instead of the northeast. The new runway is right across the expressway from there.
There is no doubt that from the south side of Allstate Arena, you will be able to see the planes landing. But no longer will they be passing right over the roof.
I can still remember taking the kids to the circus when they were young and being "surprised" by a plane as we approached the south doors as it came over the building. Now that will only happen in "bad weather" - when the wind is blowing too hard from the south so that the planes cannot make a crosswind landing on the east-west runways.
And for the future, the airport plans parallel runways for the existing east-west runways, including one just north of the one that goes down the Kennedy. I think that one would be for departures, which would be bad for PR between Higgins and Touhy when the wind is out of the east.
Of course Daley needs to find a way to pay for the new runways and so any new flight patterns are years away. But when it happens, the reaction in PR will be the same those who live along Bellplaine are having today.
I know that I am slefish for looking at it this way and I am not 100 % familiar with all the residential neighborhoods in that area but it seems to me to make a lot more sense for the final low approach to take place over and an industrial area, railroad tracks, Target parking lot and Allstate arena rather then a residential area.
Reggie:
How do you know about the plane not flying over the Allstate Arena?
Are the eleiminating that runway?
Mike,
They are not eliminating the runway, but will use it a lot less.
The goal of parallel runways is to eliminate planes crossing paths, really to elimate the possibility of planes crossing paths at the same time.
The flight path of the Rosemont runway (4L - 22 R) crosses in front of the new runway, and also crosses two other runways on the ground. So if a plane is landing on 22R, no other plane can move on either of the two runways, until the plane that is landig is off the runway and taxiing to the gate. That slows down the planes who want to take off, or land on the intersecting runways. And you cannot try to use both the new runway and the old 22R runway because you cant take a chance of two landing planes crossing in the air at the same time.
Without the intersections, you can land planes without delay and use other runways for takeoffs. That is why the planes fly out over the lake and line up for landing. They control their speed to maintain 2 miles or so between them. And they are in lines so that they do not cross in front of each other, avoiding the possiblilty of a mid-air collision.
The limit on this configuation is the wind. If it is too strong from the north or the south (a wind that blows across the runway - "cross wind") some planes cannot land and would have to the Rosemont Runway 22R and the Irving Park Road Runway 22L. Thunderstorms can also shut down approach patterns. But most of the time, jets can land in cross winds and will use the east-west runways only. So the planes flying down Bellplaine will continue to fly down Bellplaine, from 6:00am to 10:00pm, every day.
And they will no longer fly over the Target and Allstate Arena.
The planes do not fly over Allstate going to the new runway but they are not so far south that it makes a big difference. They are only about 500 feet south of the Arena (near the south end of the parking lot)
Im sure the residents on Stewart are happy since the planes are only over Belle Plaine.
Glad I moved out years ago. But be careful, he (Daley) has a reputation of coming at night and tearing things down......First Meigs, then Bensenville now Park Ridge.
They' Rosemont before they get to PR so just be quiet.
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