Mooooooooove forward!
Thanks for your patience PRU fans -- we've had some technical glitches today.
The highlights of the City Council COW can be summed up by saying that Mayor Howard is a pandering coward and most of his council alderhacks are firmly under his control.
Also under Mayor Howard's control is ooh, pick me! pick me! I wanna be police chief real real bad, Tom Swoboda, who offered a not-so-cleverly spun recitation of how PADS sites in other towns haven't posed a serious problem, on site, for police departments in those towns. When questioned by Alderman Dave Schmidt (1st Ward) about information Swoboda has been given by a Chicago Police Dept. 16th District Commander, regarding the 513 arrests of PADS clients outside of PADS shelters, Swoboda offered that the information would have to be looked at more closely and broken down, which is another way of saying, "Give me time and I'll find a way to dismiss these facts in favor of the position preferred by Mayor Howard."
For his part, Mayor Howard tried to be clever and ask the city attorney that if the 500 foot restriction remains in the ordinance along with the demands of city building codes regarding sprinklers, how many churches would qualify to be homeless shelters. City attorney Buzz Hill said he couldn't answer that, to which Mayor Howard replied, "I can answer! The answer is zero!" Mayor Howard also stated that PADS gives "health exams" and remarked that the city is "constitutionally on thin ground with regard to fingerprinting". At which point the city attorney said, "No. I never said that." Mayor Howard also stated that he had "called 14 Mayors of other towns today" -- today? Jeeze Howard, what's your hurry? -- and that the 6 that responded to him all said that, in short, PADS is terrific! The PRU Crew would suggest that no other response could possibly be forthcoming from those Mayors, since those Mayor's would then have to answer to their constituents about why they aren't doing anything to address the issues surrounding PADS shelters in their towns.
Alderman Don Bachtard (3rd Ward) said he does not believe that a 500 foot restriction that prevents homeless shelters from operating inside schools will have any effect, and that children do not play within the "little circles" that comprise the 500 foot buffer. Ald. Bachtard also let everybody know that he is tired of listening to arguments over the constitution and didn't want to hear any more. Later, as if to demonstrate his disinterest in hearing anything about constitutional rights, Bachtard suggested that "security escorts" be provided during PADS shelter exits to "escort" PADS clients to buses and trains. And as we can see, Park Ridge's very own Constitutional UNscholar seems to not have gotten past the First Amendment to take a look at all those other pesky constitutional amendments, or this piece of stunning idiocy would never have left his mouth. But we're only speculating on that since that requires the assumption of his ability to understand information.
Alderman Frank Wsooolman (7th Ward) offered that he would like to see the 500 foot restriction language in the ordinance left as-is, with the addition of language stating "while children are present". He also seemed to indicate his support for limiting the hours of shelter operation, and months of operation, as well as shelter operators being required to co-apply for either special use or licensing. Ald. Wsooolman's best question of the evening came when he confirmed that shelters will be allowed in all residential zoning districts, and then he asked why the B4 (business district) zoning district was excluded for special use by homeless shelters. Acting Director of Community Development, Carrie Davis, responded that the purpose of that exclusion was to "limit the impact" of homeless shelters on the business district. And people, we have to tell you, when we read that in our various reports this moring...well...we just don't know what to say about that -- the total disregard for the impact on residents of Park Ridge is so unbelievable, we are left virtually speechless.
Alderman Tom Carey (6th Ward) was the only alderman to address the issue of whether or not the question of Park Ridge supporting the opening of a homeless shelter could go to referendum. Ald. Carey also indicated that it is the City Council's responsibility to find a "healthy balance" between the desires of the community and constitutional laws, and this issue has been very divisive to the community.
~~THUD!!!~~ Who is this guy??? This can't possibly be the same guy who took office just 17 short months ago!!! Has anyone checked under this guys bed for a pod?
What a concept! Send to referendum what 2nd Ward Alderman Rich DiPietro himself described as "the most controversial issue" he's seen in his fourteen years of council service.
Alderman Carey, we can only hope that you will pursue this matter by proposing a resolution of the City Council approving a referendum that asks the voters whether or not they support the opening of a homeless shelter in Park Ridge, and if appropriate, under certain restrictions.
Speaking of Ald. DiPietro (2nd Ward) -- his suggestions were that St. Paul of the Cross erect a partition that will keep PADS clients from accessing other areas of the SPC building. DiPietro also wants bike racks installed for PADS guests who are into pedaling their way from shelter to shelter, from town to town.
Benedict Alderman Robert Ryan (5th Ward) was...can you guess?...absent from the meeting. But he did submit a statement to Mayor Howard to be read at the meeting. Essentially, Ald. Ryan believes there is a need in the community for a homeless shelter and that Journeys from PADS to Hope has a proven process for addressing the issue of homelessness. Benedict Ald. Ryan also wants to eliminate the 500 foot restriction on where shelters can open, wants St. Paul of the Cross to be the only applicant in the special use and licensing, wants to allow medical services to be provided inside shelters, adjust the ordinance to add that temporary overnight shelters provide continuous parking on site or adjacent to the shelter property, and that to address the issue of loitering, shelters not operate within a 1/4 mile of each other in the Uptown area.
Alderman James Allspaghetti (4th Ward) let it be known that when dealing with the constitution, it "puts religion in a special place". Allspaghetti went on to say that when he talked about what the Park Ridge Police Department was doing in enforcing the zero tolerance law, that what they were doing the constitution says they can't do, which may explain why then Chief of Police Caudill issued a memo to his department that zero tolerance was not to be enforced as they have been doing. But of course, this leads the PRU Crew to wonder why Allspaghetti's buddy, Terry Ekl, so strongly suggested that the directives in that memo from then Chief of Police Caudill be immediately rescinded? Anyone? We can't make heads or tails of this "logic".
Finally, Alderman Dave Schmidt (1st Ward) was once again the champion of the residents of Park Ridge, and the representative who challenged his fellow council members to answer the mandates in the zoning code which address the fundamental considerations and purpose for zoning text amendments. Schmidt's council peers were stunningly silent on that issue. Schmidt also read from a rather long dissertation on health issues in the homeless population, pointing out that there are reasonable concerns among those who question whether or not opening a homeless shelter inside a school could expose children to air borne illnesses. Schmidt also questioned the costs that would be undertaken by the city in regard to providing police and ambulance services to a shelter.
Mayor Howard addressed that issue later by pointing out that residents are not charged when police vehicles answer their calls, which of course ignores who it is that provides all the tax revenue used to fund services like police and fire departments -- but, the PRU Crew has come to understand that Mayor Howard doesn't know much about who is actually funding the government he's running. Mayor Howard also presumed that residents of the Youth Campus are not charged for ambulance services, but Chief Gjelsten corrected him on that point, so Mayor Howard offered that maybe the city could charge for ambulance services to any homeless shelter.
Schmidt went on to try to refute much of the unfounded claims of his fellow council members, such as Ald. Allspaghetti's incorrectly stating the City Attorney's position on the 500 foot restriction, and Ald. Bachtard's hair brained idea of "security escorts" out of town for shelter clients. Finally, Ald. Schmidt supported Ald. Carey's question of putting the issue to a referendum vote before the people of Park Ridge.
After Mayor Howard had his final say on the issue of homeless shelters, Ald. DiPietro moved that the matter be referred as an action item on the next City Council agenda.
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And now, a recap of the highlights of last night's City Council regular meeting, which was held at its usual time, interrupting the committee of the whole meeting that took place before and after the regular City Council meeting --
The City Cluck, Betty Henneman, asked the council to vote on a change of venue for the October 20th and 29th meetings of the City Council; those meetings will take place at Washington school.
Next, City Manager Jim Hock offered that he had reviewed the details of the interviews conducted by attorney Terry Ekl in his audit of the police department. Mr. Hock assured the council that the background interview material used by Ekl to write his final report looked okay, and the council can now pay Ekl's outstanding bill. It was moved by the Lord of the Manor, 2nd Ward Ald. Rich DiPietro, that the council pay Ekl $52,381.25 -- seconded by 4th Ward Ald. James Allspaghetti.
First ward Alderman Dave Schmidt moved to demand that Ekl not be paid the balance of his bill to the city, and that fees already paid to Ekl be refunded to the city. That motion died for lack of a second.
Schmidt went on to say that Ekl had stonewalled the council on every issue and that he would not be voting to pay Ekl his final bill.
On a roll call vote, the council approved final payment of the Ekl bill by 4 (Bach, Allegretti, Carey, and DiPietro) to 2 (Wsol and Schmidt).
The next item was a discussion of how to best proceed with accomplishing the needed improvements in the air quality system at the award winning Public Works Service Center. The council had to reject all the bids received in order to eliminate having to accept the lowest bidder, because the lowest bidder provided an inconsistent and incomplete bid; in addition to not meeting the standards required in the staff's reference checks. The city has been actively engaged in this issue, regarding the physical health of city employees, since January, 2007, and at one point it seemed a correction of the Public Works air quality would be deep-sixed due to budget constraints. So the PRU Crew will not stand for even an ounce of whining from any PADS asshats who think the city hasn't moooooooooved forward fast enough on some dumbass homeless shelter, while our own city employees have endured another nine months of talk talk talk over matters surrounding their personal health.
The next item on the city agenda was a discussion of the purchase of four new trucks for the Public Works department. Ald. Schmidt (1st Ward) asked why the city should purchase these trucks now, in light of the city budget deficit of approximately $1.7 million? The answer was that the vehicles are old, 19 years old, and their maintenance costs could skyrocket, and the city may not "get lucky" next year and have these trucks operable. Schmidt then asked City Manager Hock if the city could wait on this nearly $500,000 purchase. Mr. Hock responded that the funds set aside for the purchase of new trucks can't be used for certain things such as payroll, but that it could be spent on things such as fixing roads, to which Schmidt responded that fixing roads in town are a need and that he believes these trucks are a want. Hock then remarked that the longer the city waits to purchase new trucks, the lower the trade-in value for the older trucks become. Several remarks from the audience seemed to suggest that it would be best for the city to either wait on this purchase or find alternatives to buying new trucks, but in the end the City Council voted 5 (DiPietro, Bach, Allegretti, Carey, and Wsol) to 1 (Schmidt) to purchase the new trucks.
Then under the Public Safety agenda line item, the city council voted to finalize raising ambulance fees.
Finally, City Cluck Betty Henneman reported on her recent trip to Park Ridge's sister city of Kinver and Ald. Schmidt reported that he is going on a trip to Fatima Portugal where he has promised to offer prayers for his City Council peers. We would suggest that Ald. Schmidt not waste his energy on his council peers and instead pray for the residents of Park Ridge who are suffering the idiocies of his council peers.
And shortyly after that, the city council adjourned their regular meeting and got back to moooooooooving forward on discussing the issue of regulations for homeless shelters in Park Ridge.
October 7, 2008
Oh, The Cow Goes...
Posted by ParkRidgeUnderground
Labels: Aldermen, Homeless Shelters, Public Works, Zoning Code
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With all the time, money and energy put forth to date on PADS, we could have built a home on the outskirts of town, supplied a years worth of food and medical and have put this issue to bed forever!!! Let's keep talking....spending.... and debate who is paying for this, and what should we about that. Let's move off dead center. Mayor....wake the *&%^ up and listen to the overwelming majority of the residents of PR you are representing and not your friendly aldermen who are going to voted out of office next term. Oh yea, we have to wait because someone chagened that too.
New trucks? 19 year old, how much could they be worth now? All I know is that when money gets tight, you hold on to what you have and run it until it no longer runs. You don't spend like all the idiots who try to live beyound thier means.
it is painfully clear that we are not well-represented.
What a bunch of dolts Howard and his pets are. Planning and Zoning voted for the ordinance as it is now. I've got to figure that the people on Planning and Zoning understand the details of planning and zoning better than the aldermen do because planning and zoning is the only thing they do. I do not remember the city attorney saying anything about any problems with the 500 ft. regulation at the planning and zoning meeting. What is that guy's problem? Wasn't he paying attention? And that Davis woman is such a liar. Last night she said that Planning and Zoning did the recommendation for the business district. She blamed them for that, but that is not how it was. It was Davis that gave the ordinance that way to the Planning and Zoning commission. They just didn't change what staff recommended to them on that, probably because they had so many other things to talk about that city staff left out of the ordinance. I think that Davis woman should be fired! Since I have been paying attention to what is going on with the city, she has been nothing but a screw up from left to right.
Apologies in advance...
...but...I can't help but laugh at all this!
...6 months to discuss regulations for homeless shelters...9 months to discuss improving environmental quality at the PWSC...
I just have to laugh! Tell me again, HOward...or...Allegretti...?, about the faster, more efficient decision making of a smaller council...? Tell me again, Bach, about "quality individuals" needed to serve on the council...? ...right after you explain the sort of "quality individuals" that approve a budget which falls nearly two million dollars in the hole just 6 months after its approval...
I believe that if I don't laugh...I'll cry...
If Frimark had got his way that he's still trying to get, we would all be in the hole over 2 mil. because of his give away gift to his friend Napleton.
PRU Crew,
This is a very funny parody of a City Council meeting. I especially like the bit about providing escorts for the homeless. Did you steal that from SNL?
But enough is enough...you've had your fun. Would you now please be kind enough to post the real report?
WIP --
We wish we could fulfill your request but the sad truth is that this the current state of our city government.
Bean:
I cannot express my agreement with your post in strong enough terms!!!! The time spent on this versus the progress/results should be an embarassment to all of these elected officials!
Pru, thank you for the report. My reading says that the Ministerial Association and PADS forces will get almost everything they want. The reasonable concerns of parents in the town are getting ignored. I should not be surprised. Mayor Frimark and his aldermen have ignored people in town since they day they took office. I count 4 votes, DiPetro, Bach, Allergetti, Ryan, for doing away with the single most important regulation in protecting the health of kids inside schools. They don't get it.
Why not use the Senior Center at Centennial Park for the PADS shelter? It isn't used on Sunday nights, it has bathrooms, I think it has a kitchen, and while it may not be 500 feet from schools, it isn't real close either. Seems to me to be a viable alternative to SPC.
Anon@6:29 --
We thought that was an interesting suggestion when the Pub-dog's made it back in July.
Now that it has become clear that many of the local PADS pushers are members of the senior set in their respective Park Ridge parishes, we like the idea even better.
Throw in that Mayor Howard and his 2nd wife are members of the senior center, the idea begins to look better and better.
If the Aldermorons aren't willing to keep a homeless shelter from operating inside a school, then they should have no argument against allowing a homeless shelter to operate near a school.
The matter would involve getting the Park board onboard. But one of Mayor Howard's greatest supporters is the current president of the Park board and a PADS shelter supporter -- Dick Barton, known around PRU parts as the Park District's Own Mr. Haney. Certainly Barton would jump at the chance to persuade his fellow board members of the goodness of this idea and sell them on the Senior Center as the perfect PADS location.
I just sent the following in an email to the city attorney and the alderman.
"I'm wondering if you and the aldermen have been keeping up with the news. If you have, then you've probably seen this item: http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=241174&src=109
>>>Police say Palatine man could face murder charges in beating of buddy
A Palatine man will likely face murder charges Friday after he beat his buddy, who has died from injuries he received in a Rolling Meadows parking lot last month, police said.
David Greer, 48, 1140 E. Northwest Highway, had been charged with one count of aggravated battery for the beating of William R. Roman, 43, from Arizona. But Roman recently died, so those charges will be upgraded, police said. The Cook County State's Attorney's Office will determine the nature of the new charge, but it's likely Greer will be facing some kind of murder charge, said Joseph Waitzman, Rolling Meadows' investigation commander.>>>click the link above for the full story.<<<
Would any of you care to guess what is at 1140 E. Northwest Highway in Palatine. Look it up on Google maps if the address of the service provider with a "proven process" doesn't ring a bell for you.
I'm also wondering if the 4 "tree trimmer wannabes" in the news story are also part of the much ballyhooed "Lawn Service" run by the service provider in question? Not that anyone would ever drive around Park Ridge knocking on doors and looking for work...besides, our citizens...especially our seniors...never fall for those sorts of scams. And I'm sure any inquiry into the matter would be repelled with claims of "privacy rights" by the service provider in question.
No need to respond gentlemen...I've no illusions about some of your (in)abilities to tackle difficult questions...and I'm sure acting Chief Swoboda would be quick to point out that the beating/murder did not take place AT a homeless shelter site run by PADS...which then leaves you all free to ignore the issue of the nature of the service providers screening process and clientele. I simply wanted to share this fascinating story with you all."
I’m ticked that Ald. Bach & our Public Works dept want to purchase 4 trucks at a cost of $439,485. Does Public Works employ mechanics? If so, does anyone know how many and their annual compensation?
Why can't we hold the builder of the Public works garage responsible for the air handling system upgrade?
AJ
I think the aldermen are trying to wear us all down, so no one goes to any more City Council meetings regarding PADS. After enough time lapses, they're counting on people NOT showing up to hold them responsible.
How much do the aldermen and mayor make from these positions?
Hello Linda Ski --
One of the Crew was wondering, so we thought we would go ahead and ask -- are you billing Mayor Howard for the time you spend reading here? Maybe under 'campaign research' or something?
Anon@10:34 --
Aldermen earn -- we use the term loosely -- $100 per month to cover incidentals.
The Mayor earns -- we really use the term loosely -- $1000 per month to cover incidentals.
I just have to, I can't stand it!
There are too many pads supporters that wouldn't know how to look this up or wouldn't bother:
The HOPE Center and Journeys from PADS to HOPE's administrative offices are located at 1140 E. Northwest Highway, Palatine, Illinois 60074, Nice work 8:00. Swoboda is acting so bizarrely, I just don't get it. He won't, just won't acknowledge any police reports or crimes, hundreds of them!!!!
Seen at the PR Jewel floral dept.:
"Due to the national shortage of helium, we have a limited supply of balloons......"
Gee, wonder where all the hot air went?
How could no one see what was coming??? A want to be mayor spending, I am estimating based on what I have seen and read, approximately $80 - 100K on campain cost for a position that pays $1000/month!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any "golden parachut" plans in your long term planning Mr. Mayor?
"Due to the national shortage of helium, we have a limited supply of balloons......"
Gee, wonder where all the hot air went?
LOL, helium is not hot, but serves the same purpose, makes politicians talk funny.
I can't wait to see the effect these homeless transients have on the new and beautiful refurbished businesses' in Park Ridge. I feel sorry for all the business owners who will see a definate impact from these two legged pigeons who will be begging and shitting all over their new refuge. Watch your children and your purses!!!!! Park Ridge will now be the sister city of Cicero!!!
Going back to the beginning of this - why PADS - why PADS at all> If there are homeless people in PR that need help let's help them, why bring in more? Why introduce PR to many more and become sister Cicero? Why ? What would Frimark gain when his town falls to its knees to those pigeons all over the business district? Just wait til those homeless folks realizethe generocity of the people here. WHen they start to take advantage and get comfortable.
I have used this analogy before - when I bring my kids all dressed nice to a new friend's home they behave very well, are a little nervous, and use manners.... by the 10th visit? They are so comfortable they run around their house like animals, leave a mess behind, scream and cry and don't clean up after themselves. Once they get comfortable it's all over... so great, introduce the homeless population to the elementary school, let them get comfortable, drive around, watch our kids walking home... great job Aldermen and Mayor - great job...
Disgusting.
Jumping jeezus on a pogo stick. THIS is our City government?! Somebody please pass the Narcan, I want off this trip.
Can we impeach the mayor? Seriously, can we? He sounds absolutely, 100 % nuts!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anon@11:13 --
There is not a way to impeach the Mayor. And the municipal code does not allow for recall elections either.
Don't be fooled -- Mayor Howard is anything but nuts. He's dumb like a fox.
I want to make sure everyone understands ANON 8pms post - the Greer who committed the murder his residence is a PADS shelter - it is not mentioned or referenced inthe article at all so great catch on that! This is what the police officers have been trying to reiterate - inside the shelter they follow the rules, simply to get the cot and the meal and whatever else they can - once released what will they do? PRMA is confident they will not continue this behavior as indicated in the article? Thankfully in their condition (per article) no other innocent victim/homeowner/senior was taken advantage of. So very very scary...
From Disgruntled
The Zoning Ordinance amendment is being written to allow ANY temporary homeless shelters in Park Ridge. Swoboda insists on considering only arrests that happen inside a PADS shelter and involve only PADS guests. This issue is not about PADS! This is NOT ABOUT PADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This just in; Pads is getting a small business licence to put multiple shine box locations in Downtown Park Ride. The train station, Pickwick Theatre 1, St.Paul of the Cross (Sundays only), and City Hall are the locations up for approval right now. Stay tuned!!
This is far greater than the talentless group representing thecity is prepared to handle. With a few exceptions with the aldermen that are paying attention and actually speaking intelligently I am ashamed of the rest of their actions.
The police chief who is clueless thinking there are no problems? hello? maybe not in the shelter during the shelter hours, but once they wak and leave it's a different story - one of survival at any cost.
The goofy cleck who is afraid of the bad press depicting PR as a community who cares about their kids - ? any media can be spum whatever way you choose to look at it - get over it -
The mayor who seriously folks was before my time as a resident how the heck did he get elected? did no one run against him? He can't speak, can't state a clear sentence without having to correct himself and has no clue how he got his pants on.
Several aldermen who follow their mayor without respect for their constituents? WAKE UP - this isn't follow the leader - this is speaking up for the people you are representing.
AND BY NO MEANS does the majority of the community want this - set up some way even pre-referendum for residents to say if they agree or disagree -
THis is so disgustingly frustrating I am besides myself on what to write anymore. I have written, I have called, I have read, I have spoken to many others who have done the same - this is awful....
From PRU:
"Anonymous said...
This will...end up in the high courts. Watch and see.....
Thank you.
July 22, 2008 3:11 PM"
The city of PR is must be getting a ton of money from the government by allowing this PADS shelter come to town. This clearly must be the reason for alderman (those who just MUST have attended some sort of college to get this far in politics???)to have lost their judgement for what reality really is. I say this because of the outlandish comments made my them, mayor etc at last nights meeting. Facts and statistics have been provided. Your police chief wanna be is not the real police. This mayor wants his money and this is what its about. Only thanks to Alderman Schmidt for having to extracate information from everyone especially "please please pick me wanna be police chief".
Then their is fr. carl...all he ever wanted was another extension on his residence at spc. So sad for him that after 20 plus years he has to go...but wait...maybe just maybe if he does something utterly amazing at any cost like say our children he can stay forever?? His bombshell on the last day of school, his fear monger comments over and over and his racist comments that were not ment for any parishners to hear (only politicians who get scared when the "race card" is used). Did he ever apologize...no. He just got mad his comments got out and wants to know who the whistle blower is.
blah blah...
Boycott St.Paul Septemberfest, unless Fr.Carl, Mrs.Bobroff, Mayor Mc Cheese, Aldermorons, and fellow white-shirts are in a dunk tank.
Pads is training several of their so called guests to train as caddy's to work at the Country Club next spring. They are also training them in the art of being Butlers for prospects in City Council.
anon 8:44:
Interesting comments. I am assuming you are the one who made the shine box reference as well (sorry if my assumption is wrong).
May I as you to elaborate on your point? Perhaps I will understand what you are getting at after my second cup of coffee. What exactly am I supposed to take away from your comments?
My take is that PADS likes to create a permanent underclass so they can keep themselves above it all and beat their chests about how good they are while they exploit that underclass and they've got the super stupor xtians going along for the ride.
Speaking of stupidity...I'd like to hear DiPietro or Wsol or Allegretti explain the "time limit" idea in light of the following from the St. Paul of the Cross School website... Do I read that correctly...? The EDP begins at 7:00 AM...? ...on Monday mornings...?
The Extended Day Program (EDP) is currently available for all students in grades kindergarten - 8 from 2:50 p.m. 5:50 p.m. on all full-session school days. The cost, which includes a snack, is $10.00 per day for one child. The cost for additional children from the same family will be $7.00 per day per child.
You may enroll on a full-time basis or part-time basis, with part-time being the same days every week. Applications will be accepted on a "first come, first served" basis.
2007-2008 School Year
The following times will be offered:
7:00 AM – 7:55 AM ($3.00 per day) Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday
I'd venture a guess that it is the EDP that will be changed or dropped...at least on Monday mornings...to accomodate the neeeeeeds of the homeless...screw the parishioner parents and kids...it's all about PADS "guests"...
Of course the dope who scribbles notes for the H-A didn't accurately report on the language addition offered by Wsol...who wants to add to the 500 ft. restriction "while children are present"...not "as long as classes were not in session."
Fr. Carl and the Mayor wouldn't work in a dunk tank; their heads are too big!
To the point on EDP - EDP does start at 7AM butit is in the EGC classroom - the main building - not the same building as the PADS shelter would be located - same campus though, same parking lot, etc... FR. Carl said to us he could make the rules of the shelter in which they leave earlier say 6:30AM ... and that they coudl adjust schedules to have the gym not host kids in it until later in the day oh an to have the upper classmen have gym in the beginning of the week - now come on doesnt that make you all feel better - thank goodness for Fr. Carl - NOT
I'll feel better when fr. carl gets his lifestyle choices in order and moves on to another parish.
Anon@7:48 --
I have chosen to allow your comment to be posted since it was not specific. I warn you though, be very careful where you tread.
Anon@3:23-
It was my understanding that AM EDP was in the Kinane Center. I am not sure though. Still not the same building but right across the alley...
For those of us who are concerned about the ability of Fr. Carl to lead the parish, we can make our concerns know to the:
Priest Placement Board
Archdiocese of Chicago
155 East Superior St.
Chicago, Il 60611
It is important for us to let the Board know of our concerns especially in light of Fr. Carl's comments that refer to citizens, who are concerned about the safety of our community, as "racial and economic bigots".
Faith Hope and Charity was able to petition the Board and refuse him. Let's get him moved out of PR sooner rather than later.
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